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[ ... ] revive the Plymouth name and build dealer traffic. For 35K, a turnkey Cobra kit cars starts to look good.
The kit car looks good — but that’s all you will have is a starter kit. The thing will be a compromise in every direction and well, it won’t be anything like a real Cobra. But you won’t have to keep the Prowler in the garage. It’ll have it all, distinct street rod looks (haven’t seen one in person for a while, but this is a very good look), and a roof (two actually), windows that roll up and down, and a/c, and a nice radio, and good power, and a warranty, won’t rust. Sure it has a 6, so what? An automatic? Gimme a break, it’s basically a slap stick what any rodder puts on their automatics anyway. And it’ll have a warranty. Hopefully it’ll handle great and be pretty fast. That should eat up Vette sales – them things are way to hard to see out of and get into (but they are fully outrageous fun). But like a vette, storage space will be quite a bit on the *none* side. Hopefully it’ll take two golf bags and a big suitcase with ease … For the cash we look at high end Miata’s at around 28K, Prowler’s faster & bigger, and easier to get into (suit & tie set). Camaro convertible? Z-28 buyer types, $24,490 base MSRP price. Bowtie has more storage, more dealer resources, more means to make that sucker fly … hmm…. It’ll be slick, hope someone I know buys one so I can at least get a ride in it. -johnj
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I’ve read some articles here about the Prowler and people are complaining because it only has a 250 hp V6…and an auto. ok…I’ll go with the auto thing…that sux but it also leaves room for improvement. (i.e. adding a stick as an option later) As for the V6, I beg to differ. Power to weight ratio is what will give you that plastered to your seat feeling and the 250hp V6 is a good start. As soon as an aftermarket company touches it the first thing they will do is add a couple of turbos or a super. That will really waken things up! We’ve been screaming for a while now for a RWD Chryco sports car…this is a start…. They probably had to use the V6 to make the car appeal to a larger crowd as alot of folks don’t like the lack of mileage from a V8…( I don’t care myself) This is a shame for us who like the V8’s but someone will have a V8 Prowler in no time…guarrunteed. We really can’t knock it until we see what it will do..I don’t know about you but I haven’t seen a single test with numbers yet though…. Justin Applegate 1987 Shelby Charger GLHS #589 Small cubes high output does work!
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: The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that : Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 : model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear : wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. I think the Prowler is a decent concept, but can you imagine how much those 20 inch rear wheels will cost to replace? I’ve seen some ads for 20 inch tires and they run about 500 bucks each…pretty steep.
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: The latest Motor Trend has a complete story on the Prowler. The : article is fairly detailed and it had a decent set of pics too. I can : see myself in one…. It also looks like performance may not be a quick as thought. They say their target weight is about 2700 lbs. Motor Trend also predicts that the 0-60 times will be the 7’s rather than in the 6’s.
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Why would : someone buy a cookie cutter street rod?
I don’t really consider it a street rod. It just happens to be a production car that looks like a street rod. Street rod is a term for a car produced before 1949. That makes the Prowler about 48 years too late. In additon I suspect it will be : rather expensive and appeal to a small group of people.
$35k is not too bad. I am considering either the Z3 or the Prowler in about 3 years when I am ready to purchase again. I’m all for putting new, exciting cars out on the market, but I don’t like the Prowler. Its a really neat idea/design/etc, but who wants a v6/auto street rod? Posers and wannabes.
No. You’re wrong. It _is_ a really neat idea/design/etc. and that is why it will sell. If I want a car that is not supported by the factory warranty, has multiple parts from multiple manufacturers, and requires a lot of time and extra maintenance, I will buy/build a street rod. But the beauty of the Prowler is that you get the roadster/open fendered feeling without the headaches inherent to a car built in the manner most street rods are built in. I love street rods, and hope one day to own one. I just don’t have the time or money to spend building the rod I really want. But I do want a sports car that is fun AND is a looker. The Prowler and the Z3 fit that niche beautifully, with the Prowler leading the two, in light of its exclusivity. Whats the point in having a street rod if you can’t plaster your internal organs all over the back of the seat when you give ‘er some gas? And an automatic? Strike two. Chrysler, put away the toys and drop a real engine and tranny into that thing!!
I beg to differ. I have seen plenty of street rods running sixes and even fours. They are still fun to drive, according to their owners. what would a buyer be interested in the Prowler for? I can think of only a few reasons: 1 – Collectors item (possibly) Potential investment?
Maybe the first year. After that they won’t be as much of a collector’s item. I would much rather spend the money on a different car, if I wanted one. 2 – The looks of the car (enter posers and wannabes)
I don’t consider myself either, but I love the looks of this car. I am an enthusiast, not a poseur. I just don’t have the time to maintain a non-factory vehicle at this time. 3 – Just because its so darn different
Bingo! You got the brass ring. It is different. Think about it: Three years from the beginning of production, there will only be about 13k of these cars produced. There is a lot of exclusivity there. Deuces are a dime a dozen at rod runs. Anybody can build a deuce from glass with enough money. But the Prowler is something noone has ever seen before. Certainly not for the performance. I dunno, maybe for some people the looks of a car+ are enough to validate its purchase.
I will insist on being allowed to drive the car first. If I don’t like the way it performs, I will go with the Z3, as I am sure I will like it. Looks are a major factor, but if I can’t live with the car on a daily basis, I don’t want it. I can’t identify with that, because I just don’t get it… If my car *looks* fast, it had better *be* fast.
Kinda like if my car looks like it has a convertible top, by God the top had better fold down and stow away. (The Avenger, Ford Probe, [and I'm sure there are others] would fall into this same category… sheep in wolves clothing)
The Subaru XT6 is the same. Sporty crapmobile. The Prowler will be quite light and should handle very well. It doesn’t really matter how fast the car goes if it doesn’t hug the turns. I like the twisties, so my car had best be able to like them too. + – By "car", I really mean a sports/sporty type car, not your econobox or land yachts… If it doesn’t look fast, it doesn’t have to be fast, though thats a nice bonus. ;-)
I know. I drove down to Florida this weekend in a Lexus LS400. The police didn’t pay one bit of attention to me, though I was flying low the whole way. I saw plenty of sports cars pulled over. I kinda like the stealth approach to high-speed driving. Scott
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: I think the Prowler has been an interesting and excellant concept car. : Chryslers design team has done a great job. Unfortunately I don’t think : putting the car into production is a good idea. With most street rodders : the purpose of building the car yourself is to be different. Why would : someone buy a cookie cutter street rod? In additon I suspect it will be : rather expensive and appeal to a small group of people. I’m all for putting new, exciting cars out on the market, but I don’t like the Prowler. Its a really neat idea/design/etc, but who wants a v6/auto street rod? Posers and wannabes. Whats the point in having a street rod if you can’t plaster your internal organs all over the back of the seat when you give ‘er some gas? And an automatic? Strike two. Chrysler, put away the toys and drop a real engine and tranny into that thing!! I don’t mean to offend anyone or start a flame war or anything, there have been many people who have voiced their support of the Prowler, but what would a buyer be interested in the Prowler for? I can think of only a few reasons: 1 – Collectors item (possibly) Potential investment? 2 – The looks of the car (enter posers and wannabes) 3 – Just because its so darn different Certainly not for the performance. I dunno, maybe for some people the looks of a car+ are enough to validate its purchase. I can’t identify with that, because I just don’t get it… If my car *looks* fast, it had better *be* fast. (The Avenger, Ford Probe, [and I'm sure there are others] would fall into this same category… sheep in wolves clothing) + – By "car", I really mean a sports/sporty type car, not your econobox or land yachts… If it doesn’t look fast, it doesn’t have to be fast, though thats a nice bonus. ;-) -Jon- | Jon Steiger == DoD# 1038 == USUA# A46209 == NMA# 117376 == KotWitDoDFAQ | | ‘96 Dakota SLT V-8, ‘91 FZR600R /* Just another mangy hacker */ |
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The latest Motor Trend has a complete story on the Prowler. The article is fairly detailed and it had a decent set of pics too. I can see myself in one…. Eric Winn
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I heard that only 5000 will be produced and the cost will be about 35,000. Power is to be a lowly V-6. I wonder how well it will handle snow or rain? Unless you have 35K to keep in garage, it’s not a very practical car. I’d rather keep my money in a bank or the market. It’s hoped that it will revive the Plymouth name and build dealer traffic. For 35K, a turnkey Cobra kit cars starts to look good. The latest Motor Trend has a complete story on the Prowler. The article is fairly detailed and it had a decent set of pics too. I can see myself in one…. Eric Winn
– Bill Kolofa ’92 ST1100 _____/ __ __/ ____/ ____/ / / / / / Happiness is hitting 8K rpm, ____ / 0 / 0 / / 5 / 100+ mph and knowing you have / / / / / one more gear to go. ______/ _/ _____ ____/
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. 250 hp 3.5 or 214 hp? No manual? Weight?
Said they are trying for the increased (240-250hp), yes no manual only Auto-Stick Automatic Tranny, I’ve heard around 2500lbs. That would give quite a nice weight / hp ratio! Think it will be shown officially tomorrow to a group of press folk.
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I think the Prowler has been an interesting and excellant concept car. Chryslers design team has done a great job. Unfortunately I don’t think putting the car into production is a good idea. With most street rodders the purpose of building the car yourself is to be different. Why would someone buy a cookie cutter street rod? In additon I suspect it will be rather expensive and appeal to a small group of people. Just my $.02
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. 250 hp 3.5 or 214 hp? No manual? Weight? Said they are trying for the increased (240-250hp), yes no manual only Auto-Stick Automatic Tranny, I’ve heard around 2500lbs. That would give quite a nice weight / hp ratio!
3.5L V-6 (same engine as the LHS) w/ Autostick The Prowler will be faster than the LHS because it will be 700 lbs. lighter. Rear-wheel drive. Dual air-bags, side guard door beams. said to cost in the mid $30s (U.S. dollars). Limited production first year to 3000 with 5000 as a top capacity. All first year cars will be "Prowler Purple" (no color choice) — Marc Konchinsky, 08-02-72 Chief Party Arranger for Great Times D.J. Entertainment (Reading, PA) Sales Consultant for Mente Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge (Kutztown, PA) ‘86 Dodge Caravan 4 cyl./stick-shift, w/75K & a tempermental Sony CD Player Macintosh Performa 636CD & a Newton MessagePad 100
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. -Chris — / QQQ Play Q-ZAR the "World’s Favorite Laser Tag Game" QQQQQQQQ QQQ QQQ AT QQQ QQQ Q-ZAR Springfield Mall (703) 313-0399 QQQ QQQ Q-Zar Manassas (703) 361-3469 QQQQQQQ / http://www.qzar.echo-sol.com
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick.
250 hp 3.5 or 214 hp? No manual? Weight? Think it will be shown officially tomorrow to a group of press folk.
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. -Chris — / QQQ Play Q-ZAR the "World’s Favorite Laser Tag Game" QQQQQQQQ QQQ QQQ AT QQQ QQQ Q-ZAR Springfield Mall (703) 313-0399 QQQ QQQ Q-Zar Manassas (703) 361-3469 QQQQQQQ / http://www.qzar.echo-sol.com
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick.
250 hp 3.5 or 214 hp? No manual? Weight? Think it will be shown officially tomorrow to a group of press folk.
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. 250 hp 3.5 or 214 hp? No manual? Weight?
Said they are trying for the increased (240-250hp), yes no manual only Auto-Stick Automatic Tranny, I’ve heard around 2500lbs. That would give quite a nice weight / hp ratio! Think it will be shown officially tomorrow to a group of press folk.
-Chris — / QQQ Play Q-ZAR the "World’s Favorite Laser Tag Game" QQQQQQQQ QQQ QQQ AT QQQ QQQ Q-ZAR Springfield Mall (703) 313-0399 QQQ QQQ Q-Zar Manassas (703) 361-3469 QQQQQQQ / http://www.qzar.echo-sol.com
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I think the Prowler has been an interesting and excellant concept car. Chryslers design team has done a great job. Unfortunately I don’t think putting the car into production is a good idea. With most street rodders the purpose of building the car yourself is to be different. Why would someone buy a cookie cutter street rod? In additon I suspect it will be rather expensive and appeal to a small group of people. Just my $.02
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The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. 250 hp 3.5 or 214 hp? No manual? Weight? Said they are trying for the increased (240-250hp), yes no manual only Auto-Stick Automatic Tranny, I’ve heard around 2500lbs. That would give quite a nice weight / hp ratio!
3.5L V-6 (same engine as the LHS) w/ Autostick The Prowler will be faster than the LHS because it will be 700 lbs. lighter. Rear-wheel drive. Dual air-bags, side guard door beams. said to cost in the mid $30s (U.S. dollars). Limited production first year to 3000 with 5000 as a top capacity. All first year cars will be "Prowler Purple" (no color choice) — Marc Konchinsky, 08-02-72 Chief Party Arranger for Great Times D.J. Entertainment (Reading, PA) Sales Consultant for Mente Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge (Kutztown, PA) ‘86 Dodge Caravan 4 cyl./stick-shift, w/75K & a tempermental Sony CD Player Macintosh Performa 636CD & a Newton MessagePad 100
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The latest Motor Trend has a complete story on the Prowler. The article is fairly detailed and it had a decent set of pics too. I can see myself in one…. Eric Winn
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I heard that only 5000 will be produced and the cost will be about 35,000. Power is to be a lowly V-6. I wonder how well it will handle snow or rain? Unless you have 35K to keep in garage, it’s not a very practical car. I’d rather keep my money in a bank or the market. It’s hoped that it will revive the Plymouth name and build dealer traffic. For 35K, a turnkey Cobra kit cars starts to look good. The latest Motor Trend has a complete story on the Prowler. The article is fairly detailed and it had a decent set of pics too. I can see myself in one…. Eric Winn
– Bill Kolofa ’92 ST1100 _____/ __ __/ ____/ ____/ / / / / / Happiness is hitting 8K rpm, ____ / 0 / 0 / / 5 / 100+ mph and knowing you have / / / / / one more gear to go. ______/ _/ _____ ____/
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: I think the Prowler has been an interesting and excellant concept car. : Chryslers design team has done a great job. Unfortunately I don’t think : putting the car into production is a good idea. With most street rodders : the purpose of building the car yourself is to be different. Why would : someone buy a cookie cutter street rod? In additon I suspect it will be : rather expensive and appeal to a small group of people. I’m all for putting new, exciting cars out on the market, but I don’t like the Prowler. Its a really neat idea/design/etc, but who wants a v6/auto street rod? Posers and wannabes. Whats the point in having a street rod if you can’t plaster your internal organs all over the back of the seat when you give ‘er some gas? And an automatic? Strike two. Chrysler, put away the toys and drop a real engine and tranny into that thing!! I don’t mean to offend anyone or start a flame war or anything, there have been many people who have voiced their support of the Prowler, but what would a buyer be interested in the Prowler for? I can think of only a few reasons: 1 – Collectors item (possibly) Potential investment? 2 – The looks of the car (enter posers and wannabes) 3 – Just because its so darn different Certainly not for the performance. I dunno, maybe for some people the looks of a car+ are enough to validate its purchase. I can’t identify with that, because I just don’t get it… If my car *looks* fast, it had better *be* fast. (The Avenger, Ford Probe, [and I'm sure there are others] would fall into this same category… sheep in wolves clothing) + – By "car", I really mean a sports/sporty type car, not your econobox or land yachts… If it doesn’t look fast, it doesn’t have to be fast, though thats a nice bonus. ;-) -Jon- | Jon Steiger == DoD# 1038 == USUA# A46209 == NMA# 117376 == KotWitDoDFAQ | | ‘96 Dakota SLT V-8, ‘91 FZR600R /* Just another mangy hacker */ |
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: The latest Motor Trend has a complete story on the Prowler. The : article is fairly detailed and it had a decent set of pics too. I can : see myself in one…. It also looks like performance may not be a quick as thought. They say their target weight is about 2700 lbs. Motor Trend also predicts that the 0-60 times will be the 7’s rather than in the 6’s.
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Why would : someone buy a cookie cutter street rod?
I don’t really consider it a street rod. It just happens to be a production car that looks like a street rod. Street rod is a term for a car produced before 1949. That makes the Prowler about 48 years too late. In additon I suspect it will be : rather expensive and appeal to a small group of people.
$35k is not too bad. I am considering either the Z3 or the Prowler in about 3 years when I am ready to purchase again. I’m all for putting new, exciting cars out on the market, but I don’t like the Prowler. Its a really neat idea/design/etc, but who wants a v6/auto street rod? Posers and wannabes.
No. You’re wrong. It _is_ a really neat idea/design/etc. and that is why it will sell. If I want a car that is not supported by the factory warranty, has multiple parts from multiple manufacturers, and requires a lot of time and extra maintenance, I will buy/build a street rod. But the beauty of the Prowler is that you get the roadster/open fendered feeling without the headaches inherent to a car built in the manner most street rods are built in. I love street rods, and hope one day to own one. I just don’t have the time or money to spend building the rod I really want. But I do want a sports car that is fun AND is a looker. The Prowler and the Z3 fit that niche beautifully, with the Prowler leading the two, in light of its exclusivity. Whats the point in having a street rod if you can’t plaster your internal organs all over the back of the seat when you give ‘er some gas? And an automatic? Strike two. Chrysler, put away the toys and drop a real engine and tranny into that thing!!
I beg to differ. I have seen plenty of street rods running sixes and even fours. They are still fun to drive, according to their owners. what would a buyer be interested in the Prowler for? I can think of only a few reasons: 1 – Collectors item (possibly) Potential investment?
Maybe the first year. After that they won’t be as much of a collector’s item. I would much rather spend the money on a different car, if I wanted one. 2 – The looks of the car (enter posers and wannabes)
I don’t consider myself either, but I love the looks of this car. I am an enthusiast, not a poseur. I just don’t have the time to maintain a non-factory vehicle at this time. 3 – Just because its so darn different
Bingo! You got the brass ring. It is different. Think about it: Three years from the beginning of production, there will only be about 13k of these cars produced. There is a lot of exclusivity there. Deuces are a dime a dozen at rod runs. Anybody can build a deuce from glass with enough money. But the Prowler is something noone has ever seen before. Certainly not for the performance. I dunno, maybe for some people the looks of a car+ are enough to validate its purchase.
I will insist on being allowed to drive the car first. If I don’t like the way it performs, I will go with the Z3, as I am sure I will like it. Looks are a major factor, but if I can’t live with the car on a daily basis, I don’t want it. I can’t identify with that, because I just don’t get it… If my car *looks* fast, it had better *be* fast.
Kinda like if my car looks like it has a convertible top, by God the top had better fold down and stow away. (The Avenger, Ford Probe, [and I'm sure there are others] would fall into this same category… sheep in wolves clothing)
The Subaru XT6 is the same. Sporty crapmobile. The Prowler will be quite light and should handle very well. It doesn’t really matter how fast the car goes if it doesn’t hug the turns. I like the twisties, so my car had best be able to like them too. + – By "car", I really mean a sports/sporty type car, not your econobox or land yachts… If it doesn’t look fast, it doesn’t have to be fast, though thats a nice bonus. ;-)
I know. I drove down to Florida this weekend in a Lexus LS400. The police didn’t pay one bit of attention to me, though I was flying low the whole way. I saw plenty of sports cars pulled over. I kinda like the stealth approach to high-speed driving. Scott
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: The current Car and Driver (Feb. ‘96, I think) has an article saying that : Chrysler has announced the Prowler will be produced. In January as a ‘97 : model. 3000 the first year in Prowler Purple only. Aluminum body, rear : wheel drive, dohc 3.5l six cylinder and Auto-Stick. I think the Prowler is a decent concept, but can you imagine how much those 20 inch rear wheels will cost to replace? I’ve seen some ads for 20 inch tires and they run about 500 bucks each…pretty steep.
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[ ... ] revive the Plymouth name and build dealer traffic. For 35K, a turnkey Cobra kit cars starts to look good.
The kit car looks good — but that’s all you will have is a starter kit. The thing will be a compromise in every direction and well, it won’t be anything like a real Cobra. But you won’t have to keep the Prowler in the garage. It’ll have it all, distinct street rod looks (haven’t seen one in person for a while, but this is a very good look), and a roof (two actually), windows that roll up and down, and a/c, and a nice radio, and good power, and a warranty, won’t rust. Sure it has a 6, so what? An automatic? Gimme a break, it’s basically a slap stick what any rodder puts on their automatics anyway. And it’ll have a warranty. Hopefully it’ll handle great and be pretty fast. That should eat up Vette sales – them things are way to hard to see out of and get into (but they are fully outrageous fun). But like a vette, storage space will be quite a bit on the *none* side. Hopefully it’ll take two golf bags and a big suitcase with ease … For the cash we look at high end Miata’s at around 28K, Prowler’s faster & bigger, and easier to get into (suit & tie set). Camaro convertible? Z-28 buyer types, $24,490 base MSRP price. Bowtie has more storage, more dealer resources, more means to make that sucker fly … hmm…. It’ll be slick, hope someone I know buys one so I can at least get a ride in it. -johnj
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I’ve read some articles here about the Prowler and people are complaining because it only has a 250 hp V6…and an auto. ok…I’ll go with the auto thing…that sux but it also leaves room for improvement. (i.e. adding a stick as an option later) As for the V6, I beg to differ. Power to weight ratio is what will give you that plastered to your seat feeling and the 250hp V6 is a good start. As soon as an aftermarket company touches it the first thing they will do is add a couple of turbos or a super. That will really waken things up! We’ve been screaming for a while now for a RWD Chryco sports car…this is a start…. They probably had to use the V6 to make the car appeal to a larger crowd as alot of folks don’t like the lack of mileage from a V8…( I don’t care myself) This is a shame for us who like the V8’s but someone will have a V8 Prowler in no time…guarrunteed. We really can’t knock it until we see what it will do..I don’t know about you but I haven’t seen a single test with numbers yet though…. Justin Applegate 1987 Shelby Charger GLHS #589 Small cubes high output does work!
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